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Date From Topic
01
Thu, Jun 08, 2000 10:35 AM David Heise Request for feedback from WebCT Administrators on acting as moderators for the LeadAll listserv.
02
Mon, Jun 12, 2000 9:30 AM Jim Tucker Response to Message 01.
03
Mon Jun 12, 2000 11:20 AM Mickey Hay Supporting the idea of WebCT Administrators as moderators for the LeadAll listserv .
04
Wed, Jun 14, 2000 3:00 PM Gary Longfellow Also in support.
05
Tue, Jul 25, 2000 6:26 PM David Heise To Faculty, after the Roundtable session, proposing two steps to take before implementation.
06
Thu, Jul 27, 2000 10:36 AM Naomi Ludman In Support.
07
Sat, Jul 29, 2000 11:01 PM Jim Tucker Request to faculty for input on the role of moderating.
08
Sun, Jul 30, 2000 12:42 AM David Heise Response to Jim Tucker (& Faculty) about his request in Message 07.
09
Sun, Jul 30, 2000 6:53 AM Jim Tucker Reply to my response.
10
Sun, Jul 30, 2000 8:20 PM David Heise Response to Jim Tucker (& Faculty).
11
Mon, Jul 31, 2000 8:22 AM Shirley Freed Let's just do it.
12
Tue, Aug 01, 2000 10:23 AM Jim Tucker Agreeing.
13
Tue, Aug 01, 2000 10:27 AM Jim Tucker Restating the proposal
14
Tue, Aug 01, 2000 4:47 PM Hinsdale Bernard Voting in favor.
15
Thu, Aug 10, 2000 7:02 PM JimTucker How soon can we activate the filter for leadall?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16
Sun, Aug 13, 2000 10:02 PM David Heise Implementation request passed on to Dan Bidwell.
17
Sun, Aug 13, 2000 10:09 PM Jim Tucker Confirmation of priorities for Dan.
18
Thu, Oct 05, 2000 8:01 PM David Heise Announcement to LeadAll listserv about the implementation of a moderated LeadAll.
19
Mon, Oct 09, 2000 11:52 PM Leslie Bumgardner Thank you for reducing the clutter.
20
Thu, Nov 30, 2000 3:16 PM David Heise Response to comment in minutes of the Berrien Dissertation Regional Group for 7-Nov-2000 ("would have preferred that the participants be consulted before that step had taken place")
21
Thu, Nov 30, 2000 4:54 PM Shirley Freed Supporting my response.
22
Thu, Nov 30, 2000 5:22 PM David Heise Thanking Shirley
23
Thu, Nov 30, 2000 5:47 PM Shirley Freed  
24
Sun, Dec 03, 2000 7:03 PM Cilla Tucker We don't want to have a designated WebCT Administrator.
25
Sun, Dec 03, 2000 7:58 PM David Heise To Jim Tucker & Carol Castillo, asking how to respond to CIlla.
26
Mon, Dec 04, 2000 10:46 AM David Heise Further explanation to Carol.

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 10:35 AM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: leadadmin@andrews.edu
Cc: Leadership Faculty
Subject: A "Moderated" LeadAll

Hello Leadership WebCT Administrators,

I have not received any responses to my earlier message about technical assistance your regional group members may be needing for connecting to library databases, WebCT, looking up grades etc. One interpretation of this is that everyone has it working like a dream. Another is that some have not yet tried. Maybe another is that you have been too busy to chase this up yet.

Another item I had asked about, with very short notice, was for feedback on the Roundtable Web.
49 people have registered over the web so far, so I think I can assume that, after a hiccup or two, this is working well.

Now here is another proposal that I am seeking your input on.

You may have noticed that the LeadAll listserv gets quite busy at times and that what gets posted there is not always seen as vital to the program. This mattered less when the leadership group was relatively small, but it has now reached proportions where some action needs to be taken. Our Faculty have discussed this situation, and in the interests of protecting the time of all the busy people in the program, and maintaining the value of the list, they have agreed to make LeadAll a moderated list.

(I am listening for a "chose me, I will be moderator", but I hear only groans... WHO would want that job?)

I think the question of what is appropriate, right and proper for posting to LeadAll is one that would benefit from discussion by the whole group. And when that is decided, the list could be moderated to allow on to the list only those messages that meet the guidelines. The question is, what mechanism can we use to moderate the list?

The technology we use permits us to create a list of people authorized to post. The suggestion is for the list to contain the names of the leadership faculty and the WebCT administrators for the regional groups. The system would reject postings to the list from anyone else.

What do you think about this suggestion? Anyone in your group who wanted to post to LeadAll would email their message to you, and you would use you judgment to post it to LeadAll.

The WebCT LeadAll Bulletin Board would become the venue for sharing stories, portfolio tips, discussing topical issues, etc. The LeadAll listserv would be reserved for announcements from the Leadership office, maybe notification that a general discussion question had been posted on the bulletin board, maybe minutes from regional group meetings, etc.

Please get back to me with your thoughts on this.

Regards
David

---
David Heise
Chief Information Officer
Andrews University


email: dheise@andrews.edu
phone: (616) 471-6124
fax: (616) 471-6900
http://dheise.andrews.ed/

Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 9:30 AM
From: James Tucker [tuckerj@andrews.edu]
To: David Heise
Cc: leadadmin@andrews.edu; Leadership Faculty
Subject: Re: A "Moderated" LeadAll


David, I appreciate very much your taking on the daunting task of sorting all this out, and I like your suggestion very much. I doubt that anyone would take on the task single-handedly, so a shared responsibility for the task sounds like an excellent way to go.

Jim

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, David Heise wrote:

> Hello Leadership WebCT Administrators,
>
> I have not received any responses to my earlier message about technical
> assistance your regional group members may be needing for connecting to
> library databases, WebCT, looking up grades etc. One interpretation of this
> is that everyone has it working like a dream. Another is that some have not
> yet tried. Maybe another is that you have been too busy to chase this up
> yet.
>
> Another item I had asked about, with very short notice, was for feedback on
> the Roundtable Web.
> 49 people have registered over the web so far, so I think I can assume that,
> after a hiccup or two, this is working well.
>
> Now here is another proposal that I am seeking your input on.
>
> You may have noticed that the LeadAll listserv gets quite busy at times and
> that what gets posted there is not always seen as vital to the program.
> This mattered less when the leadership group was relatively small, but it
> has now reached proportions where some action needs to be taken. Our
> Faculty have discussed this situation, and in the interests of protecting
> the time of all the busy people in the program, and maintaining the value of
> the list, they have agreed to make LeadAll a moderated list.
>
> (I am listening for a "chose me, I will be moderator", but I hear only
> groans... WHO would want that job?)
>
> I think the question of what is appropriate, right and proper for posting to
> LeadAll is one that would benefit from discussion by the whole group. And
> when that is decided, the list could be moderated to allow on to the list
> only those messages that meet the guidelines. The question is, what
> mechanism can we use to moderate the list?
>
> The technology we use permits us to create a list of people authorized to
> post. The suggestion is for the list to contain the names of the leadership
> faculty and the WebCT administrators for the regional groups. The system
> would reject postings to the list from anyone else.
>
> What do you think about this suggestion? Anyone in your group who wanted to
> post to LeadAll would email their message to you, and you would use you
> judgment to post it to LeadAll.
>
> The WebCT LeadAll Bulletin Board would become the venue for sharing stories,
> portfolio tips, discussing topical issues, etc. The LeadAll listserv would
> be reserved for announcements from the Leadership office, maybe notification
> that a general discussion question had been posted on the bulletin board,
> maybe minutes from regional group meetings, etc.
>
> Please get back to me with your thoughts on this.
>
> Regards
> David

Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:20 AM
From: Mickey Hay [mrhay@smc.cc.mi.us]
To: James Tucker; Leadership-all cohorts
Subject: Re: A "Moderated" LeadAll

I agree wholeheartedly, and as one of the WebCT administrators, I think it is a natural extension of our service to Leadall to share the moderation of our listserv. (Think "competency" fellow administrators!)

Mickey Hay

James Tucker wrote:

> David, I appreciate very much your taking on the daunting task of sorting
> all this out, and I like your suggestion very much. I doubt that anyone
> would take on the task single-handedly, so a shared responsibility for
> the task sounds like an excellent way to go.
>
> Jim
>

--
Margaret R. Hay
Southwestern Michigan College
Developmental Studies Department
2229 U.S. 12
Niles, MI 49120
616.687.4806 Fax:687.4818
e-mail:mrhay@smc.cc.mi.us

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:00 PM
From: Gary Longfellow [glongfel@freeway.net]
To: David Heise
Subject: Re: A "Moderated" LeadAll

Hello David

As a WebCT Adminsitrator it seem like a good idea. It would force more use of WebCT and clean up the email issues. I would be willing to moderate for our regional group (Lead North Mich).

gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Heise <dheise@andrews.edu>
To: leadadmin@andrews.edu <leadadmin@andrews.edu>
Cc: Leadership Faculty <leadfac@andrews.edu>
Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:15 PM
Subject: A "Moderated" LeadAll


>Hello Leadership WebCT Administrators,
>
>I have not received any responses to my earlier message about technical
>assistance your regional group members may be needing for connecting to
>library databases, WebCT, looking up grades etc. One interpretation of this
>is that everyone has it working like a dream. Another is that some have not
>yet tried. Maybe another is that you have been too busy to chase this up yet.
>
>Another item I had asked about, with very short notice, was for feedback on
>the Roundtable Web.
>49 people have registered over the web so far, so I think I can assume that,
>after a hiccup or two, this is working well.
>
>Now here is another proposal that I am seeking your input on.
>
>You may have noticed that the LeadAll listserv gets quite busy at times and
>that what gets posted there is not always seen as vital to the program.
>This mattered less when the leadership group was relatively small, but it
>has now reached proportions where some action needs to be taken. Our
>Faculty have discussed this situation, and in the interests of protecting
>the time of all the busy people in the program, and maintaining the value of
>the list, they have agreed to make LeadAll a moderated list.
>
>(I am listening for a "chose me, I will be moderator", but I hear only
>groans... WHO would want that job?)
>
>I think the question of what is appropriate, right and proper for posting to
>LeadAll is one that would benefit from discussion by the whole group. And
>when that is decided, the list could be moderated to allow on to the list
>only those messages that meet the guidelines. The question is, what
>mechanism can we use to moderate the list?
>
>The technology we use permits us to create a list of people authorized to
>post. The suggestion is for the list to contain the names of the leadership
>faculty and the WebCT administrators for the regional groups. The system
>would reject postings to the list from anyone else.
>
>What do you think about this suggestion? Anyone in your group who wanted to
>post to LeadAll would email their message to you, and you would use you
>judgment to post it to LeadAll.
>
>The WebCT LeadAll Bulletin Board would become the venue for sharing stories,
>portfolio tips, discussing topical issues, etc. The LeadAll listserv would
>be reserved for announcements from the Leadership office, maybe notification
>that a general discussion question had been posted on the bulletin board,
>maybe minutes from regional group meetings, etc.
>
>Please get back to me with your thoughts on this.
>
>Regards
>David

Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:26 PM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: Leadership Faculty
Subject: Moderated LeadAll

Dear Faculty,

I believe that after today's session on technology and communication, there is strong support for making the LeadAll list a moderated list. I also believe there are two things that must be done before imposing that restriction.

1. Prepare a simple document describing the policies or guidelines that Regional Group WebCT administrators can follow in determining what is appropriate for forwarding to LeadAll.
2. Give me the official go-ahead, and I will instruct Dan Bidwell to restrict sending to LeadAll to Faculty and Regional Group WebCT administrators.

Regards
David

---
David Heise
Chief Information Officer
Andrews University


email: dheise@andrews.edu
phone: (616) 471-6124
fax: (616) 471-6900
http://dheise.andrews.ed/

Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 10:36 AM
From: Naomi Ludman [nludman@smc.cc.mi.us]
To: David Heise
Subject: Re: Moderated LeadAll

David,

Yes, I agree.

Naomi

David Heise wrote:

> Dear Faculty,
>
> I believe that after today's session on technology and communication, there
> is strong support for making the LeadAll list a moderated list. I also
> believe there are two things that must be done before imposing that
> restriction.
>
> 1. Prepare a simple document describing the policies or guidelines that
> Regional Group WebCT administrators can follow in determining what is
> appropriate for forwarding to LeadAll.
> 2. Give me the official go-ahead, and I will instruct Dan Bidwell to
> restrict sending to LeadAll to Faculty and Regional Group WebCT
> administrators.
>
> Regards
> David

Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 11:01 PM
From: James Tucker [tuckerj@andrews.edu]
To: David Heise
Cc: Leadership Faculty
Subject: Re: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

David,

I hope you were not put off here, because we didn't get to this item this year. There were so many items, and this one just slipped through the cracks of discussion. I think we need to discuss it as a faculty a bit more before we announce it. The request for such a filter is so pervasive, that I personally don't feel the need to discuss it further with leadall, but I do think we need to have someone who is willing to stand as the filter judge. Any takers?

Jim

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, David Heise wrote:

> Dear Leadership Faculty,
>
> We now have the ability to funnel postings to the leadall listserv through
> the regional group WebCT administrators, who are becoming de facto
> technology coordinators for their groups. General discussions would move to
> the Discussion Board in the LeadAll WebCT.
>
> My question is: Is this on the agenda for discussion during the Round Table
> conference? Or is it going to be officially announced then? What is the
> process for getting to a moderated leadall?
>
> Thanks
> David

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 12:42 AM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: James Tucker
Cc: Leadership Faculty
Subject: RE: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

Jim & Faculty,

It would not be an onerous burden on the Regional Group WebCT administrators to take on the role of moderating posts to LeadAll from just their group members. I think the very act of restricting those authorized to post to the list will lead to the voluntary restraint that has been asked for unsuccessfully numerous times in the past.

The technology is available to apply a restriction allowing only faculty and Regional Group WebCT administrators permission to post to LeadAll. I thought the matter did receive adequate attention and support during the technology plenary session. I agree that, following the support given in that session, there is no need to prolong discussion on LeadAll.

But before asking the administrators to take on this responsibility, a statement needs to be prepared outlining a few simple guidelines about what the email list can be used for, and what more appropriately should be sent to the discussion board.

Finally, the Detroit2000 is currently not on LeadAll. If LeadAll cannot become a list that those members of the program can live with, then why should the rest of us have to suffer it?

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Tucker [mailto:tuckerj@andrews.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 11:01 PM
> To: David Heise
> Cc: Leadership Faculty
> Subject: Re: Process for getting to a moderated leadall
>
>
>
> David,
>
> I hope you were not put off here, because we didn't get to this item this
> year. There were so many items, and this one just slipped through the
> cracks of discussion. I think we need to discuss it as a faculty a bit
> more before we announce it. The request for such a filter is so
> pervasive, that I personally don't feel the need to discuss it further
> with leadall, but I do think we need to have someone who is willing to
> stand as the filter judge. Any takers?
>
> Jim

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 6:53 AM
From: James Tucker [tuckerj@andrews.edu]
To: David Heise
Cc: Leadership Faculty
Subject: RE: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

With such a restriction, then Detroit would have no objection to being on the list. My reason for wanting to discuss it was to determine who best should serve as the filter(s). Somehow I missed the possibility of having regional filters. I am not sure that will work, but I am more than willing to put it into place and see. There are two reasons that I think it may not work: 1. the administrators may not be as restrictive as we would like them to be (the rules may take care of that), and 2. the group administrators may not be present or may not attend to the task for long periods of time. But that still seems to be the best alternative.

Do you have a draft of the guidelines already, or should we work on that?

Thanks so much for your work on this. As usual, you have taken on the task when it was suggested and you have followed through with it.

Jim

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, David Heise wrote:

> Jim & Faculty,
>
> It would not be an onerous burden on the Regional Group WebCT administrators
> to take on the role of moderating posts to LeadAll from just their group
> members. I think the very act of restricting those authorized to post to
> the list will lead to the voluntary restraint that has been asked for
> unsuccessfully numerous times in the past.
>
> The technology is available to apply a restriction allowing only faculty and
> Regional Group WebCT administrators permission to post to LeadAll. I
> thought the matter did receive adequate attention and support during the
> technology plenary session. I agree that, following the support given in
> that session, there is no need to prolong discussion on LeadAll.
>
> But before asking the administrators to take on this responsibility, a
> statement needs to be prepared outlining a few simple guidelines about what
> the email list can be used for, and what more appropriately should be sent
> to the discussion board.
>
> Finally, the Detroit2000 is currently not on LeadAll. If LeadAll cannot
> become a list that those members of the program can live with, then why
> should the rest of us have to suffer it?
>
> David

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 8:20 PM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: James Tucker
Cc: Leadership Faculty
Subject: RE: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

I think there is value is seeing what other regional groups are doing, so I would include minutes of regional group meetings the list of what the administrators could send to the list. Beyond that, I feel only faculty should send to the list. If a participant has something they feel ought to be shared, maybe they should pass it by their advisor, who would post it if it was sufficiently important to put in everyone's inbox. But I really think the place for 'sharing' items is the bulletin board. I know that some, (even many), will not go there, but I also know that many see a leadall message, judge from the subject line that they don't want to read, it delete it.

I believe it is imperative that the list be kept for essentials, mostly announcements from the office that we all need to hear. I would hope that use of the bulletin board will grow as it becomes a general meeting and sharing place. But I am only one of many with views on this. You may want to consult others, maybe the WebCT administrators themselves (leadadmin@andrews.edu). I will be on campus Monday & Tuesday, then off-site for 2 days, then on vacation for 2 1/2 weeks. I will be receiving email, so I can ask Dan Bidwell to carry out whatever instructions you decide on.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Tucker [mailto:tuckerj@andrews.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 6:53 AM
> To: David Heise
> Cc: Leadership Faculty
> Subject: RE: Process for getting to a moderated leadall
>
>
>
> With such a restriction, then Detroit would have no objection to being on
> the list. My reason for wanting to discuss it was to determine who best
> should serve as the filter(s). Somehow I missed the possibility of
> having regional filters. I am not sure that will work, but I am more
> than willing to put it into place and see. There are two reasons that I
> think it may not work: 1. the administrators may not be as restrictive as
> we would like them to be (the rules may take care of that), and 2. the
> group administrators may not be present or may not attend to the task for
> long periods of time. But that still seems to be the best alternative.
>
> Do you have a draft of the guidelines already, or should we work on that?
>
> Thanks so much for your work on this. As usual, you have taken on the
> task when it was suggested and you have followed through with it.
>
> Jim

Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:22 AM
From: Shirley Freed [freed@andrews.edu]
To: David Heise
Cc: James Tucker; Leadership Faculty
Subject: Re: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

David and faculty - I'm entirely comfortable with a moderated list that only faculty and regional administrators can post to - we've talked long enough! Let's just do it!! shirley

David Heise wrote:

> I think there is value is seeing what other regional groups are doing, so I
> would include minutes of regional group meetings the list of what the
> administrators could send to the list. Beyond that, I feel only faculty
> should send to the list. If a participant has something they feel ought to
> be shared, maybe they should pass it by their advisor, who would post it if
> it was sufficiently important to put in everyone's inbox. But I really
> think the place for 'sharing' items is the bulletin board. I know that
> some, (even many), will not go there, but I also know that many see a
> leadall message, judge from the subject line that they don't want to read,
> it delete it.
>
> I believe it is imperative that the list be kept for essentials, mostly
> announcements from the office that we all need to hear. I would hope that
> use of the bulletin board will grow as it becomes a general meeting and
> sharing place. But I am only one of many with views on this. You may want
> to consult others, maybe the WebCT administrators themselves
> (leadadmin@andrews.edu). I will be on campus Monday & Tuesday, then
> off-site for 2 days, then on vacation for 2 1/2 weeks. I will be receiving
> email, so I can ask Dan Bidwell to carry out whatever instructions you
> decide on.
>
> David

Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:23 AM
From: James Tucker [tuckerj@andrews.edu]
To: Shirley Freed
Cc: David Heise; Leadership Faculty
Subject: Re: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

How long should we wait for more input. I agree with Shirley. Unless someone feels strongly and wishes to speak up now, I suggest that David set up the moderated feature accordingly. All in favor, say "aye." Silence will hae to be taken as consent. :+)

Jim

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Shirley Freed wrote:

> David and faculty - I'm entirely comfortable with a moderated list that only
> faculty and regional administrators can post to - we've talked long enough!
> Let's just do it!! shirley

Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:27 AM
From: James Tucker [tuckerj@andrews.edu]
To: David Heise
Cc: Leadership Faculty
Subject: RE: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

David's layout of the options looks very good to me. I am not sure yet, what would keep a WebCT administrator from posting directly as a faculty, but perhaps I missed something. As I understand it, the regional group minutes would be posted directly (and subsequently routed to an accumnulation on the web, right?), and all other messages to Leadall would come from the faculty. The message to everyone would be to that effect. What have I missed?

Jim

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, David Heise wrote:

> I think there is value is seeing what other regional groups are doing, so I
> would include minutes of regional group meetings the list of what the
> administrators could send to the list. Beyond that, I feel only faculty
> should send to the list. If a participant has something they feel ought to
> be shared, maybe they should pass it by their advisor, who would post it if
> it was sufficiently important to put in everyone's inbox. But I really
> think the place for 'sharing' items is the bulletin board. I know that
> some, (even many), will not go there, but I also know that many see a
> leadall message, judge from the subject line that they don't want to read,
> it delete it.
>
> I believe it is imperative that the list be kept for essentials, mostly
> announcements from the office that we all need to hear. I would hope that
> use of the bulletin board will grow as it becomes a general meeting and
> sharing place. But I am only one of many with views on this. You may want
> to consult others, maybe the WebCT administrators themselves
> (leadadmin@andrews.edu). I will be on campus Monday & Tuesday, then
> off-site for 2 days, then on vacation for 2 1/2 weeks. I will be receiving
> email, so I can ask Dan Bidwell to carry out whatever instructions you
> decide on.
>
> David

Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:47 PM
From: Hinsdale Bernard [hbernard@andrews.edu]
To: James Tucker; Shirley Freed
Cc: David Heise; Leadership Faculty
Subject: Re: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

Jim, David and Faculty, I see this as a logical step in the right direction and cast my vote in favor.

Hinsdale

----- Original Message -----
From: James Tucker <tuckerj@andrews.edu>
To: Shirley Freed <freed@andrews.edu>
Cc: David Heise <dheise@andrews.edu>; Leadership Faculty
<leadfac@andrews.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Process for getting to a moderated leadall

> How long should we wait for more input. I agree with Shirley. Unless
> someone feels strongly and wishes to speak up now, I suggest that David
> set up the moderated feature accordingly. All in favor, say "aye."
> Silence will hae to be taken as consent. :+)
>
> Jim

Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 7:02 PM
From: James Tucker [tuckerj@andrews.edu]
To: Leadfac Leadership
Cc: David Heise
Subject: Re: What should we/I tell them - the Leaders for the 21st Century? (fwd)

How soon can we activate the filter for leadall?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:58:37 -0400
From: mikolaj@andrews.edu
To: Tom Wiseman <wisemantom@hotmail.com>
Cc: mikolaj@andrews.edu, leadall@andrews.edu
Subject: Re: What should we/I tell them - the Leaders for the 21st Century?


Quoting Tom Wiseman <wisemantom@hotmail.com>:

> Hello Andrew, thank you for your reply. Your comments make very much
> sense to me. We as Leadership participants are very capable of spreading the
> good news...

Yes, you are right. Leadership Participant can spread the Good News. How? let me illustrate. I'm sitting in the mass-media room of the 11 World Conference with about 120 other jurnalists covering the event... I can read the results of their work in Wall Street, Chicago Time, CNN, published in India, South Africa, England, by United Nations...that's fun.
Events like Press-conferences with: President of the World Health Organization 5 living Surgeons General, Secr. of Health Donna Shalala, draw a lot of attention. The same can be with Leadership...

>the problem is .....
That's good that there is only one problem (smile).

>are we all on the same wave length?

Do we need to be on the same length? How/when can we collaborate?!

For
> example, U.S. News and world reports 2000 college and university rankingsrecently
> place Andrews University in a very good and competitive standing. Thereport
> moves AU from a tier four to a tier three University....and....placeAndrews
> ( as per my interpretation) among the top "NATIONAL UNIVERSITIES" in the
> nation. The opinion from this side of the fence is in agreement with
> you...we are individually and collectively capable of presenting asnapshot
> of the opportunities the leadership program offers ...yet the need toshare
> ideas ought not be diminished. Guess in part this philosophy is derivedfrom
> my dissertation research findings which basically states that ......when
> people are sharing ideas and talking there is hope..... Again Andrewmany
> thanks for your very wise response.tom

COLLABORATION is the key term that I heard from Drs Samy and Ruth and I hear it often over here among 4500 particiapnts from all over the world representing gov and Ngo's.

There is a lot of HOPE.
Andrew

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Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 10:02 PM
From: dheise@andrews.edu
To: James Tucker
Cc: Leadfac Leadership; David Heise
Subject: Re: What should we/I tell them - the Leaders for the 21st Century? (fwd)


I have asked Dan Bidwell what it would take to implement this, but told him not to put it ahead of family matters. His sister is seriously injured in hospital from a car accident that killed her son, and he and his brother are having to make difficult decisions about funeral and burial arrangements.

I will ask him to implement it as soon as he is able to get to it.

David

Quoting James Tucker <tuckerj@andrews.edu>:

>
> How soon can we activate the filter for leadall?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 10:09 PM
From: James Tucker [tuckerj@andrews.edu]
To: dheise@andrews.edu
Cc: Leadfac Leadership; David Heise
Subject: Re: What should we/I tell them - the Leaders for the 21st Century? (fwd)


Your priorities are exactly right. I am so sorry for Dan.

On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 dheise@andrews.edu wrote:

>
> I have asked Dan Bidwell what it would take to implement this, but told
> him not to put it ahead of family matters. His sister is seriously injured
> in hospital from a car accident that killed her son, and he and his brother
> are having to make difficult decisions about funeral and burial arrangements.
>
> I will ask him to implement it as soon as he is able to get to it.
>
> David
>
> Quoting James Tucker <tuckerj@andrews.edu>:
>
> >
> > How soon can we activate the filter for leadall?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > This mail sent through IMP: www.andrews.edu
> >
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> This mail sent through IMP: www.andrews.edu

Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:01 PM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: Leadership - All
Subject: Moderated LeadAll & Online Discussions

Dear LeadAll,

Do you remember Bill Morelan's Plenary Session at Roundtable 2000: Technology Communication: Boon or Curse? I spoke briefly at that session about the possibility of being able to moderate the LeadAll listserv. Well, this has now been accomplished. There are multiple moderators for the list, and these are the WebCT Administrators for each of the Regional groups. Only these people and the faculty can send email to the LeadAll listserv.

What this means is that if your group has had a meeting and you have minutes to post, the record keeper should email the minutes to the Administrator for your group, who will then post them to LeadAll. For readability and proper observance of 'netiquette', please remove any '>' that may appear at the start of each line.

An important implication of the authorization technology we are using to moderate the list is the email address you use. In order to post to the list, you *must* use the address (or one of the addresses if you have two) that is registered in the Leadership database. This is the address that is used in the Leadership web directory and all the Leadership listservs.

A moderated LeadAll does *not* mean that you are no longer able to participate in online discussions with others in the program, or that you are no longer able to share tips, motivational stories, etc. Use the LEADALL discussion board. Go to http://webct.andrews.edu and click on 'All Leadership students'. A number of forums have been set up and already contain some postings. Check it out, and contribute some of your own.

It is hoped that this has already reduced some of the email 'noise' that was cluttering your inbox.

Regards,
David

PS The list is supposed to return an error if an unauthorized person sends to the list, but for some reason, this is not working at present. But if you do not get a copy of email you send to LeadAll, then no one else did either. We are still working getting the error message to be sent.

---
David Heise
Chief Information Officer
Andrews University


email: dheise@andrews.edu
phone: (616) 471-6124
fax: (616) 471-6900
http://dheise.andrews.ed/

Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:52 PM
From: Leslie Bumgardner [leslieb@bmi.net]
To: David Heise
Subject: Moderated LEADall

David,

Thank you! I am one who has been awaiting anxiously for this day. The reduced "clutter" in my email in box will be a blessed reward of your efforts.

Leslie

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 3:16 PM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: BerrienDis@andrews.edu
Cc: Leadership Faculty
Subject: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy

Dear Berrien Dissertation participants,

I was just reading through the minutes of your last meeting and noticed this statement towards the end:

"For example, we find it awkward to report about our meetings because of the new leadall policy and would have preferred that the participants be consulted before that step had taken place."

In the Plenary Session facilitated by Bill Morelan - Technology Communication: Boon or Curse? - I led a discussion on the concept of a moderated LeadAll. For at least as long as I have been in the program (since '98), there has been contention about what is appropriate to send to leadall. When I learned from Dan Bidwell that the technology now permits us to restrict authority to send to those named in a list, I felt the time was right to propose a moderated LeadAll. Bill's technology session seemed to be the appropriate place to present the proposal, and there was plenty of support in the discussion that followed.

(Most) Regional Groups already had designated one of their members to be the WebCT Administrator, and it seemed logical to ask this person to be the group moderator for sending email to LeadAll. I sent an email to the WebCT Administrators when this was implemented but it is possible your group did not have such a person at the time, since WebCT does not offer much to a group where all the members live locally. I apologize for any difficulty that may have been caused when you tried to post your groups minutes, but I trust that all is working smoothly now.

Regards
David

---
David Heise
Chief Information Officer
Andrews University


email: dheise@andrews.edu
phone: (616) 471-6124
fax: (616) 471-6900
http://dheise.andrews.ed/

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 4:54 PM
From: Shirley Freed [freed@andrews.edu]
To: David Heise
Subject: Re: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy

David - this is a great explanation of how we have tried to include participants in these kinds of decisions all along the way!! Thankyou for your kind response!
On another note - today someone from LaSierra was trying to find phone , email etc. info for me and said it took about 20 minutes to find it on our web page - I don't know who sets up the paths or who is in charge of the web page but it seems that this is something we could respond to -
shirley

David Heise wrote:
>
> Dear Berrien Dissertation participants,
>
> I was just reading through the minutes of your last meeting and noticed this
> statement towards the end:
>
> "For example, we find it awkward to report about our meetings because of the
> new leadall policy and would have preferred that the participants be
> consulted
> before that step had taken place."
>
> In the Plenary Session facilitated by Bill Morelan - Technology
> Communication: Boon or Curse? - I led a discussion on the concept of a
> moderated LeadAll. For at least as long as I have been in the program
> (since '98), there has been contention about what is appropriate to send to
> leadall. When I learned from Dan Bidwell that the technology now permits us
> to restrict authority to send to those named in a list, I felt the time was
> right to propose a moderated LeadAll. Bill's technology session seemed to
> be the appropriate place to present the proposal, and there was plenty of
> support in the discussion that followed.
>
> (Most) Regional Groups already had designated one of their members to be the
> WebCT Administrator, and it seemed logical to ask this person to be the
> group moderator for sending email to LeadAll. I sent an email to the WebCT
> Administrators when this was implemented but it is possible your group did
> not have such a person at the time, since WebCT does not offer much to a
> group where all the members live locally. I apologize for any difficulty
> that may have been caused when you tried to post your groups minutes, but I
> trust that all is working smoothly now.
>
> Regards
> David

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 5:22 PM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: Shirley Freed
Cc: Pat Spangler
Subject: RE: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy

Shirley, I appreciate your comments concerning the moderated leadall.

I agree entirely with you about the shortcomings on our web page. I was on Kalamazoo's web page today, and noted that they have similarly useless buttons to navigate into their web site (Prospective Students, Alumni, Students, Faculty & Staff, Parents & Visitors) and seem to remember that Jerry Burr used their ideas. I was looking for references to Institutional Research. PUC's page is very simple, with a dropdown box labeled GO TO. I typed the letter I in there and up popped Institutional Research. Our web site does very poorly in getting visitors to departments or employee contacts or directories. We have a new Web Coordinator now, and I think I should bring your comments and others I have received like them to the Web Committee and start planning to make the web site more friendly for a wider group of users.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shirley Freed [mailto:freed@andrews.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 4:54 PM
> To: David Heise
> Subject: Re: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy
>
>
> David - this is a great explanation of how we have tried to include
> participants in these kinds of decisions all along the way!! Thankyou
> for your kind response!
> On another note - today someone from LaSierra was trying to find phone ,
> email etc. info for me and said it took about 20 minutes to find it on
> our web page - I don't know who sets up the paths or who is in charge of
> the web page but it seems that this is something we could respond to -
> shirley

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 5:47 PM
From: Shirley Freed [freed@andrews.edu]
To: David Heise
Subject: Re: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy

David - great - thanks -sf

David Heise wrote:
>
> Shirley, I appreciate your comments concerning the moderated leadall.
>
> I agree entirely with you about the shortcomings on our web page. I was on
> Kalamazoo's web page today, and noted that they have similarly useless
> buttons to navigate into their web site (Prospective Students, Alumni,
> Students, Faculty & Staff, Parents & Visitors) and seem to remember that
> Jerry Burr used their ideas. I was looking for references to Institutional
> Research. PUC's page is very simple, with a dropdown box labeled GO TO. I
> typed the letter I in there and up popped Institutional Research. Our web
> site does very poorly in getting visitors to departments or employee
> contacts or directories. We have a new Web Coordinator now, and I think I
> should bring your comments and others I have received like them to the Web
> Committee and start planning to make the web site more friendly for a wider
> group of users.
>
> David

Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 7:03 PM
From: Cilla Tucker [tuckerc@andrews.edu]
To: David Heise
Cc: tuckerj@andrews.edu; berriendis@andrews.edu
Subject: Re: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy

>We don't want to have a designated WebCT Administrator. We take the
>"it's a group thing" seriously and rotate coordinating meetings and
>reporting activities. What can we do about this?

Cilla

> Dear Berrien Dissertation participants,
>
>I was just reading through the minutes of your last meeting and noticed this
>statement towards the end:
>
>"For example, we find it awkward to report about our meetings because of the
>new leadall policy and would have preferred that the participants be
>consulted
>before that step had taken place."
>
>In the Plenary Session facilitated by Bill Morelan - Technology
>Communication: Boon or Curse? - I led a discussion on the concept of a
>moderated LeadAll. For at least as long as I have been in the program
>(since '98), there has been contention about what is appropriate to send to
>leadall. When I learned from Dan Bidwell that the technology now permits us
>to restrict authority to send to those named in a list, I felt the time was
>right to propose a moderated LeadAll. Bill's technology session seemed to
>be the appropriate place to present the proposal, and there was plenty of
>support in the discussion that followed.
>
>(Most) Regional Groups already had designated one of their members to be the
>WebCT Administrator, and it seemed logical to ask this person to be the
>group moderator for sending email to LeadAll. I sent an email to the WebCT
>Administrators when this was implemented but it is possible your group did
>not have such a person at the time, since WebCT does not offer much to a
>group where all the members live locally. I apologize for any difficulty
>that may have been caused when you tried to post your groups minutes, but I
>trust that all is working smoothly now.
>
>Regards
>David

Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 7:58 PM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: tuckerj@andrews.edu; Carol Castillo
Subject: RE: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy

I don't really know what to say to Cilla about this. Coordinating and recording group activities can still be rotated, but one person (the WebCT Administrator) gets a small extra job to do every time.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cilla Tucker [mailto:tuckerc@andrews.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 7:03 PM
> To: David Heise
> Cc: tuckerj@andrews.edu; berriendis@andrews.edu
> Subject: Re: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy
>
>
> >We don't want to have a designated WebCT Administrator. We take the
> >"it's a group thing" seriously and rotate coordinating meetings and
> >reporting activities. What can we do about this?
>
> Cilla

Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 10:46 AM
From: David Heise [dheise@andrews.edu]
To: Carol Castillo
Subject: RE: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy

Hi Carol,

I wrote my response only to Jim and not the Berrien Dissertation group because I do not really have a solution to propose. And I put your name on the list because in my mind, I had an idea which I did not really feel was up to me to suggest. And that was for that group to forward their minutes to you rather than to LeadAll. and for you to send them to LeadAll as you record attendance and post the minutes to the web. But it is not up to me to volunteer you for extra duties, is it? :)

At this point in the discussion, I am going to claim that I am only one of the participants, and that if anything different is to be done, the faculty are the ones to decide what that will be.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carol Castillo [mailto:carolc@andrews.edu]
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:04 AM
> To: David Heise
> Subject: Re: "Awkwardness" of new leadall policy
>
>
> David,
>
> Cilla's group seems to be the only one I know of concerned
> about a designated web administrator. What if we made
> everyone in the Berrien Dissertation group a web administrator?
>
> Carol


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